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Extremely extremely confined engine bay lengthwise. yeah, had actually already figured that out ... it was a tongue in cheek post, that I didn't make clear ... my poor In reply to spitfirebill: I added that point since when I had to discover a replacement 4.9 for my F150, I needed to go with each in every junkyard in South Jersey to find one that had not been sludged up truly badly.
Bernie: Which is a better van, while we're going to talk regarding a few concerns of these vans, yet I I'm clearly not going to come out and state one is far better than the various other. Bernie: Well, they're basically the very same lorry.
Mark: So, well, allow's begin with engines then. Allow's talk regarding engine and actually just to specify that the design years, we're going to begin from 2000 and up, you know, I imply, these vans have actually been around for a long time.
And, you understand, for a variation of a Chevy van has actually been around given that, you know, around that time also. Because 2000, I imply, Ford's, you can get these with V6 engines or V8s.
So, you recognize, Fords, and most of them feature the Triton V8. There's a great deal of concerns with these engines. In the earlier 2000 trigger plugs with impact to these engines, since they really did not have adequate threading in the ignition system, which triggered problems. And typically that would certainly occur when you may be in a 15 guest bus going up a hill with a tons of individuals and all of an abrupt boom, an ignition system bulges and you're stranded.
If you're acquiring anything from possibly 08 and newer, you're not going to have that kind of spark plug issues. Other areas though, with the Fords that we see, consumption manifolds will certainly leakage, they'll develop coolant leaks. It's a plastic manifold generally you have to change the entire thing.
And there's some problems, the Ford engine I need to claim in their favour, since I'm speaking about troubles, it's a more advanced engine. Overhead cam, so you're obtaining even more power and efficiency out of the engine than you would certainly on a Chevy, which is a less complex style with press rods.
They're simply really rather good, long lasting, strong engines. You understand, being a van, certainly, you understand, doing any kind of service on them is a lot more complicated since you've obtained to remove that cover and get involved in servicing in strange ways. Yet things like trigger plugs last a dreadful very long time, so they don't need to be changed really usually.
Mark: Can you acquire these vans with diesel engines? Bernie: You can and we do service a few of them. I can't think about if we've ever done a Chevy, but Chevy, they're available from 2006 to 16 with a Duramax diesel. The Fords have actually had diesels in them for a long time, like back before the 2000 version year.
So, you know, that's still available. I would certainly not recommend a diesel unless you're hauling remarkably hefty lots. Diesels need to be functioned. That's really the lower line with a diesel. So if you're a say, I do not recognize, I'm just mosting likely to state a plumbing and you've got like a whole lot of heavyweight inside your van and you're towing a trailer behind it, that would be an actually good use having a diesel powered van.
In all justness, it seems like the diesels are, they seem to have less issues in vans than they perform in the vehicles. Probably due to the fact that they aren't worked so hard, yet when things take place, they're actually pricey to take care of. We have actually obtained a lot of video clips and details about diesels, specifically the Fords.
So you truly need to hesitate about obtaining a diesel in a van. That's my recommendation. Mark: Yeah, so healthy for function, make certain that you're fitting the engine that you're acquiring for the purpose that you're endeavouring to accomplish. Bernie: Yeah, exactly. And I will claim, Chevy is quite a lot limited to V8 engines, however Ford has a V 10 engine also, which is an impressive gas guzzling engine.
If you're, and once more, we're just chatting regarding kind of a straight, normal freight van below. Look at your function, your use, how much weight you're carrying and that'll help you make the decision.
Something that we have not spoken regarding right here is what kind of van. These vans are, and it depends on what model, they're readily available ever from half ton to one bunch chassis and in fact a few of the cutaway vans are in fact much more resilient, like, you understand, 450s and 550s for claim the Fords.
Typically the drive trains, you know, I locate them to be rather much equal. Mark: So let's speak about steering and suspension. Just how do they contrast? Bernie: You recognize, I'm going to provide the edge to Ford on this set. And the reason for Ford is that it's a little less complex.
There's much less steering affiliation involved in a Chevy. Do Chevy's, yet it appears, and the Chevy's most likely last a bit longer than the Fords, yet the, you know, the steering linkage is a lot less challenging, so there's less parts and less items to use out.
The ride in a Ford is most likely a little bit a lot more vehicle like however I don't know if you 'd actually ever before truly noticed a distinction between the two. It seems like their parts are a little harder on the Ford than the Chevy.
For some factor, they appear to last for one brake work. And after that a great deal of times we take the brakes off and state, Oh, the dust boots torn, and so the caliper requires to be changed. So I think on a Ford and you can expect to spend a bit even more cash on brakes and you can on a Chevy.
And I can, I'm mosting likely to digress back before the 2000 version years, there were some Chevy vans that had truly bad doors. I indicate, the sliding doors were crap, you understand, really badly built. In fact, I would certainly state that if you are also considering something older, it looks like Chevy and GMC vans truly and their trucks as a whole actually took a jump ahead in quality around the 2000 model year, since there was a great deal of stuff where the brakes for example would not last long whatsoever.
But if we're looking at the 2000 newer, I imply, I 'd say they're both probably virtually equivalent in quality, fit and surface, you know, some of the guest vans, naturally we'll have better consultations than the cargo vans. I can't say that one of them stands out to me a little more than the other.
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